I need your help. As some of you may know, I work for a local government agency. I’ve been having such a bad 7 years week. I’m terrified to tell all of you where I work, or what type of work I do. And I’ve struggled with the most unprofessional, harassing, lazy, and hateful people since the beginning. And I can’t find another job, even though I have great work experience and graduated with honors.
I don’t have the strength to write down every little thing that’s ever happened to me for all these years, but I want to share what’s been going on lately. I actually cried so hard at work yesterday my nose bleed. My big boss is horrible at communicating. He makes decisions to please other agencies, and thus forces his staff to work harder to do these other agencies work. Which wouldn’t be such a huge deal, as I’m a hard worker, a pleaser, etc. But when I’m stuck in the middle, telling people with salaries 5-6 times larger than mine, and they scream at me in front of a crowd of people like a lunatic, that’s where it becomes problematic. In a nutshell, he makes a decision, doesn’t invite me to a meeting for policy change, doesn’t write me a memo, and I hear everything 2nd hand. He’s supposed to meet with the “professionals” and basically tell them they can’t do certain things anymore. Of course 8 days later this hasn’t happened, and I’m the one that has to break the bad news to these people. And they go crazy on me, shaking and convulsing with rage and “Don’t you dare tell me what to do” etc, etc.
When I told my boss that this was a hostile work environment, and that I wanted an apology, he said nothing. He never brought it up, and ignored me for the past 2 days, so in violation of what a manager is supposed to do.
This type of situation has happened to me with these people time and again. And other people who I work in conjunction with are loud, abusive, scream and swear, which normally isn’t a big deal, but when someone is a big scary lug it has a different affect on me. That mess ended after someone’s husband called that person’s boss to complain, as my boss had a lame meeting and didn’t do one thing. Why would he, as it’s his golfing buddy…
And let’s not mention my former co-worker who hated me because they forced me to share her work, so she’d shoot rubber bands at my head, throw paper airplanes in my face, and say stuff under her breathe at me for about 5 years until she quit suddenly 2 years ago. I finally told another boss, who witnessed the whole thing anyway, and she told me to shame on you, get over it. WTF? After I told the supervisor under her to tell her buddy to quit it, or I’m going to human resources, that’s when the chick finally stopped saying things to me, and only gave me the evil eye.
And, lastly, someone discovered my code, and begun entering in all sorts of work wrong with my name all over it, and purpose, and when it was brought to my attention I was smart enough to point out that I was on my damn honeymoon when it was entered, so how the heck could I have done this work?
I actually feel the way I did as a small child growing up in an abusive home. I’m on edge, I cry off and on for days at a time, I feel like I have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. I’m at my wits end. I hung up on HR 4 times today, well, the lady I needed to talk to didn’t answer, so I felt like an ass leaving a message. I don’t know what to do, any suggestions, experience with this sort of thing you all can share? I just want to feel normal like I did back in 2001…..
Thanks for reading this,
Traumatized Ghetto Girl























22 responses so far ↓
Little Miss // April 18, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Um, yes, talk to HR. But having worked in HR for over 10 years (I am NOT an HR-type person… it didn’t suit me as I’d always advocate for the employee and HR, believe it or not, is really an advocate for the company) be prepared for them not to do anything. That comment is based on my experience with corporate America, but a government agency might be different. They might be holding people to a closer scrutiny, but not sure. It could be totally the opposite.
I had a situation a couple jobs ago where some dumb twit of a girl who just happened to be a model wanted my job. Oh, and she was stupid too. Really. She couldn’t put two sentences together intelligently. She used her body (read short skirts and cleavage) to get what she wanted and the 90% male population there ate it up. Talk about stereotypes. Anyway, she decided she was going to talk smut about me and went to HR and told them I was saying negative shit about a contractor. Not true. But HR never once approached me to verify it and the rumor got to my boss, and up to his boss, the president. When I tried to defend myself, no one believed me. I worked my ass off doing three jobs at the low price of less than what my normal job paid in the market, and when I documented what I’d accomplished and asked for a raise, the president, in my 9 minute performance review, said I didn’t deserve it and wasn’t a team player.
So, I smiled politely, thanked him for his time, but in my head swore profanities at him, and quickly found another job. Left him to deal with the mess. Ten months later, they laid off half the staff. The company will be gone in a year.
Now what does that mean for you? What should you do? I have really no idea than stick up for yourself as much as you can, but often times, it’s easier on a person (less stress, less negativity) to just move on, if at all possible. Try putting on an imaginary body suit that repels all their shit (tune it out, in other words) as much as possible.
Granted, I’m not in your shoes, but I also wanted to share with you so you know you are not alone!
Little Miss // April 18, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Gawd, my response was almost longer than your post. Sorry.
thegirlfromtheghetto // April 18, 2008 at 9:38 pm
No, it’s good to here other people’s issues. The other thing is this, a friend of mine was sexually harassed @ my work, reported it, asked for them never to have this person around her, and they ignored it. She was then harassed again. I am afraid to tell this because she swore me to secrecy.
Moonbeam McQueen // April 19, 2008 at 10:15 am
Oh god, you poor, poor thing. You have GOT to get out of there.
Ghetto Girl, I hope I’m going to say this right, but here goes.
One of the best pieces of advice I got about work was that you have to be prepared to quit and move on at any given time. Otherwise, you will start feeling horribly trapped, and you’ll start operating out of fear of losing your job, rather than operating from a position of self-worth. Easier said than done, I know, but it really does help you stand up for yourself, when you can say, “Fuck this– I won’t put up with it.”
In the meantime, here’s what I suggest.
1: Document EVERYTHING. Having worked in HR too, I can tell you that as you move up the chain of command, each department will ask, “Did you talk to so-and-so?” Make sure you can answer yes whenever possible, and give them the dates that you did so.
2: Call the labor board, and just find out if this abuse behavior is legally okay, and if there is anything you can do. Sometimes it helps just to have an outside source give you advice.
I wish that you and your husband could find jobs in another city. You are much too good for this.
Little Miss // April 19, 2008 at 10:35 am
Yes, yes! Moonbeam has excellent advice. Document it all.
Tanya // April 19, 2008 at 11:41 am
I enjoy reading your blog. I found it when I started watching ROL.
I was sexually harassed at my last job three years ago. I am married, and I asked my-coworker to quit giving me unsolicited massages during work. (He would just come up from behind me. ) I reported it to HR………nothing happened. It was as if they didn’t believe me. He kept harassing me….touching..etc. I would go home in tears feeling so violated. I finally quit without another job. Not a good thing to do, I know. I left with my dignity knowing that I had to do what was right for my self esteem.
Two years later, he was finally terminated as several women had reported him touching them. ( An old friend/co-worker let me know this).
I eventually have found another job, and I have never regretted leaving that company….. Everything works out in the end.
I know your situation is different. Although no matter what it is, it still can tear at your self worth leaving you crying and feeling awful. So not worth it.
Perhaps, you are willing to leave the area???
Just a thought
thegirlfromtheghetto // April 19, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Can’t leave… stepchildren and older parents live nearby. I wish I could just quit, but we can’t afford to. I have documented some things, but not everything. I threw out a huge list when it became so long it made me want to puke everytime I put another item on it.
Thanks for all of your advice, esp. you MBM, as I knew you used to be an HR person and you are my expert. I’ll keep you posted.
The Big A // April 19, 2008 at 3:03 pm
The continuing saga huh? This sucks…hating work and being yelled at by an ARROGANT asshole sucks. It sucks to get up start driving there and thinking, “WHEN THE FUCK IS LUNCHTIME?” I know you’ve been putting in applications on like a full time basis for YEARS now, I so wish you could get out. YOU WON’T believe the feeling when you do. And keep trying! It will come. And it will be (sing it with me) CELEBRATION TIME COME ON…..and we can be COWGIRLS….YEEEEE HAAAAW….one day it will come….we might even get cowgirl hats(if we can find them to fit out heads…LOL)
gangstalking // April 20, 2008 at 2:41 pm
You should visit http://www.mobbing.ca and http://www.mobbing-use.com to find out about workplace mobbing.
Also is this just happening at work or is anything happening outside of work? If anything starts to happen outside of work you might want to look up the term Gang Stalking. http://www.GangStalkingWorld.com
Good luck in trying to get this stopped.
Also check out the http://www.bullyeq.com site.
notordinary // April 20, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Sometimes leaving a bad job is the best thing you can do - even if it makes things difficult for a while. You shouldn’t have to work under hostile or abusive conditions. Especially if work is making you cry, or giving you stress related illness… that is just not healthy for you in the long run. Good luck and I hope you find something better!
thegirlfromtheghetto // April 21, 2008 at 12:30 am
Well, I just spent 5 hours writing my big letter listing everything from being forced to bring in all my medical records per my boss’s orders to seeing porn on a highly paid co-worker’s computer. And having a crazy co-worker walk around with an 8 inch knife, even after he was warned not to bring it to work. I also left HR a voice mail, stating that I’m sending it via email and certified mail. Can’t wait to see what the fall out is over this. OMG I am so scared.
Steph // April 21, 2008 at 1:51 pm
WOW. That is a horrible work environment you’re in! Good for you on going to HR and sending it certified mail so you have a record of doing that. Like others said, HR may not be too helpful though. I hope they are for you.
Here’s some info on other things you can do:
http://www.fcc.gov/owd/understanding-harassment.html
joanharvest // April 21, 2008 at 5:34 pm
I think Moonbeam has you covered. I feel so sorry that you have to work under those conditions. I have been fortunate and have loved every job I’ve ever had. Actually, I’ve only had two jobs where I had bosses and they were great. Then I had my own business for 25 years. That was the best.
I like the idea about calling the Labor Board too.
There has to be some sort of agency out there to protect people in your situation.
thegirlfromtheghetto // April 21, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Thanks everyone. No one called me back from HR today, so I had to call them back. Got a lady who, well, sounded like a smoker, just a flake. I have a tentative apt Friday, if I can get time off of work. And I put a call in to my friend’s BFF who is a lawyer. I am so afraid of what will happen after my letter is read. I don’t want to lose my job, my god, I’m a hard worker!
Patty // April 21, 2008 at 6:56 pm
That’s horrible. I hope everything works out for you!
Moonbeam McQueen // April 21, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Hang in there, Ghetto Girl. We’re all rooting for you!!! You know that you’re right, so just be prepared (sounds like you already are), stick to the facts, and you’ll do fine!!! Oh, and legally, they can’t fire you for going through the proper channels.
thegirlfromtheghetto // April 22, 2008 at 11:39 am
I’m so freaked out by this. Thanks for the encouragement!
Centurion73 // April 23, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Sorry to inform you Moon but yes you can be fired for going through all the right legal channels. I know because I am going through it and had to start a Federal Civil suit because of it. The thing you MUST do is get a note book and document all you can either at work or when you get home after. I know this sucks and it is more stress but it is a legal document, just note approx time, who said, did what, how you felt etc. 2. Everything you send, deliver, MUST BE CERTIFIED RETURN RECEIPT from the US POSTAL SERVICE, otherwise if and when you go to court it’s going to be , she never notified us. 3. Please check your state Penal Law about recording conversations. My state is a one party notification state, so to record as long as one party knows its legal, I am the one party, and yes I know this because I am in Law Enforcement. If it is legal and even if it is not you can still do it, get a micro tape recorder or a mp3 recorder that can be downloaded to a hard drive. Important fact here, even if it is not legal you can record the conversations, actions of others, etc, just when your asked by the judge and or lawyer remember this: I RECORDED THE INFORMATION FOR MY OWN PERSONAL SAFETY, OK don’t forget those words. 4. Stay as calm as you can because they are going to try and make you look like the irrational one, better to make you look bad than the department, I know. 5. Don’t trust your union, trust no one other than yourself. 6. Find the best lawyer you can and lawyer up now. 7. Request all correspondence be in written form for your safety. 8. Keep your head up, don’t let them now they can get to you, cry at home if you cry. I know it’s tough but your in a war now. 9. If you have EAP or something like that use it, find a Dr that will put you out on stress leave if its that bad and do not talk to anyone othe rthan your lawyer and Dr. If you can find the Book Fired, Laid off, and Forced out get it, it will give you an idea on how to keep yourself safe, but find a lawyer please. Good luck.
Dube // April 23, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Definitely hang in there! And remember that there are options outside of HR, worst case scenario! (And Moonbeam is absolutely right!)
Centurion73 // April 25, 2008 at 7:15 pm
I think I read that you work for a municipality or governmental civil service job? If so you also need to ask for “whistle blower” protection if in fact you stated actions of your boss and or co-workers. Make sure you ask for it in written form, verbal, through a representative. Now, for all of those who think you cannot get fired for going through the channels unless it has happened to you do not comment. The retaliation that will follow is illegal but the administration will do it anyway, why? Because it is very hard to fight them, they can out last you in case you can get a trial, bankrupt you, and in the end you wind up broke and without a job or any protections. I feel for you GGirl and I am sure you do have PTSD, please find a therapist or Dr. who agrees with you so you can claim FMLA and get some help and pay while your off. You have my email if you want to mail me, as I said I have been going through THIS for 2 years and know the stresses your under. Not as easy as some say, just leave, sometimes that is not an option, contact me if you need support and or any advice I can give you, stay strong and safe.
Patricia // April 30, 2008 at 8:18 am
Contact EEOC (Equal Employment Opportunity Council) — a Federal Agency that will investigate your situation and provide you some protection. There should be an office in the largest city close to you. Talking to them is a good place to start. Some states have their own version of EEOC, in Washington State it’s called the Human Rights Commission. Your state may have something similar. Look in the phone book. If you can afford a consultation fee, it’s not a bad idea to just talk to an attorney about this and see what your legal options are.
But as others have said here, document, document, document!
Hang in there!
Patricia // April 30, 2008 at 8:20 am
Oh, almost forgot: if you have a local rape crisis center, you can call them for information and referrals…and some emotional support as well.
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